The "Gnoll Slayer" quest (both versions) will also lower "Circle of Unseen Hands" faction.

Hello, if you are trying to raise this faction, please read my post. I finally got warmly today and would like to share my pain, err, uhh, wisdom from what I've learned. I'm working on my Grandmaster Assassin’s Seal with my rogue (got everything else now).

Bandits in the Karanas are slow as heck. I'm guessing that you get 1 faction point per kill. Note this little faction chart I stole from another site (I'm presuming it was discovered with showeq or something)

Ready to Attack -2800 to -801
Views you Threateningly -800 to -501
Scowls at you Dubiously -500 to -101
Is apprehensive -100 to -1
Is Indifferent 0 to 99
Is Amiable 100 to 499
Considers you Kindly 500 to 699
Views you Warmly 700 to 1099
You are an ally 1100 to 2800

As you can see, getting from apprehensive to indifferent and from indifferent to amiable (100 point difference each) is *much* faster than getting from amiable to kindly, which is a 400 point spread. But then at least getting form kindly to warmly is only a 200 point spread (I started at apprehensive).

So you are getting one point (from what I can tell) for each bandit. I had a pattern of hitting 5 camps in WK to the east and SE of the ogre camp and then checking Renuix (I think is her name) since she was on the way. I think that totaled 24 bandits per round (depending how any of the roamers I got). Their respawn time is about 6 mins and it took me about that long on run 3 to complete the trip.

For 300 gold, I can feed 3 gold at a time to Raz the Rat Misk in South Qeynos at the rate of about once per 2 or 3 seconds. Get your windows lined up to minimize mouse movement. I had my inventory window and "trade with NPC" window all very close to eachother and positioned my view so that I could click on him easily after getting my gold and the "Trade" button would appear right where I clicked on him to drop the gold.

So 30 plat for a minimum of 100 faction hits (it's probably 1 point per hit) I found to be WAY faster. I think I spent maybe 8 hours in West Karana, so I don't think I advise that.

You will get negative faction hits of course, but I highly advise it if you

a.) don't mind blowing 300 plat on faction to save time
b.) prefer monotonous clicking for a shorter period of time over monotonous killing over the period of say, a day
and
c.) don't mind the negative faction hits
+Circle of Unseen Hands
-Merchants of Qeynos
+Corrupt Qeynos Guards
-Guards of Qeynos
+Kane Bayle

I hope this helps somebody.


Edited, Tue Sep 13 01:24:50 2005

Hello,

Just want to add my two Cents worth. Doing the Scout Blade quest in High Hold Keep results in negative faction with Circle of Unseen hands. I did not pay attention to this and it got me killed in the Crows Nest Pub in Queynos when I went to do the next Scouts of Tunare Quest.

Gesibe
19th Season Scout of Tunare
Solusek Ro

the bandits in grater faydark and lesser faydark are another faction and will not affect circle of unseen hands.

I'm not sure, but I thought killing corrupt Qeynos Guards lowers this faction. I might be wrong though

The spider fungus quest with the Shaman's in Halas also lowers this faction.